Michigan

Q + R setups and a replay of a qualifying lap (clear 70°F).

Hi Volker

Thx for posting your setup for Michigan. I solely use Andreas Wilkes setups and I have never tried yours. It took me a while to get use to your Michigan ones and I have to say they are pretty good. I was able to get into the low 36.5 range for qual and was able to get a race pb of 36.8 without the draft. I tried a 40 lap race with the Al at 100 and was able to run constant 37.4 to 37.8 for the entire run. Hopefully Andreas will be able to post something so That I can compare but until then. these were nice to drive and fast. Again thx for sharing them.

Mike

UPDATE
I tightened my race setup because the car became too loose with backdraft.

Well, I just tried your updated race setup. I did a race against the AL at 101% My first 20 laps were between 37.02 and 37.20. That was with me leading I wanted to do the whole race to see but I had a brainfart and hit the wall. Super fast and seems very consistant. Those times were run with me pushing but not over driving. I really like this setup. Thanks

Okay I was finally able to finish a race. 101% Al. I started second and quickly fell to 11th. Then I spent pretty much half the race getting up to 2nd. Then I struggled to pass the leader. At the end of the race my right sides were yellow. But the setup was rock solid in traffic. Very very stable. A copy of my laps are below the race. I am going to have to try your first one again.


Weather: Clear, 70 °F, North 0 mph


Session: Qualifying

P # DRIVER TIME
1 12 R Newman 36.432
2 28 M Goodman 36.722
3 42 J Mcmurray 36.788
4 8 D Earnhardt Jr 36.854
5 18 B Labonte 36.864
6 29 K Harvick 36.868
7 16 G Biffle 36.921
8 22 S Wimmer 36.928
9 17 M Kenseth 36.931
10 19 J Mayfield 36.942
11 20 T Stewart 36.945
12 9 B Elliott 37.019
13 5 T Labonte 37.155
14 48 J Johnson 37.227
15 97 K Busch 37.257
16 15 M Waltrip 37.364


Weather: Clear, 70 °F, North 0 mph


Session: Happy Hour

P # DRIVER TIME


Weather: Clear, 70 °F, North 0 mph


Session: Race
OFFICIAL STANDINGS

F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS
1 6 29 K Harvick 192.979 40 26* 185 Running
2 2 28 M Goodman -0.33 40 2 175 Running
3 1 12 R Newman -0.89 40 12 170 Running
4 3 42 J Mcmurray -1.11 40 0 160 Running
5 5 18 B Labonte -1.40 40 0 155 Running
6 12 9 B Elliott -1.56 40 0 150 Running
7 13 5 T Labonte -2.71 40 0 146 Running
8 10 19 J Mayfield -6.94 40 0 142 Running
9 9 17 M Kenseth -7.29 40 0 138 Running
10 11 20 T Stewart -9.36 40 0 134 Running
11 7 16 G Biffle -9.70 40 0 130 Running
12 15 97 K Busch -9.78 40 0 127 Running
13 16 15 M Waltrip -20.08 40 0 124 Running
14 14 48 J Johnson -20.24 40 0 121 Running
15 4 8 D Earnhardt Jr -24.10 40 0 118 Running
16 8 22 S Wimmer -24.43 40 0 115 Running


Caution Flags: 0 (0 laps)
Lead Changes: 5 (3 drivers)
Weather: Clear, 70 °F, North 0 mph
Pitstop Frequency: 1x
AI Strength: 101%

PENALTIES
LAP # INFRACTION PENALTY



Weather: Clear, 70 °F, North 0 mph


Session: Race

LAP TIME
1 42.248000
2 37.138000
3 36.771000
4 36.648000
5 36.699000
6 36.916000
7 36.739000
8 36.666000
9 36.940000
10 37.005000
11 37.186000
12 36.834000
13 36.844000
14 36.973000
15 37.034000
16 37.052000
17 36.970000
18 36.947000
19 37.106000
20 37.600000
21 37.208000
22 37.580000
23 37.128000
24 37.120000
25 37.696000
26 37.644000
27 37.354000
28 37.305000
29 37.395000
30 37.389000
31 37.330000
32 37.405000
33 37.490000
34 37.360000
35 37.513000
36 37.492000
37 37.542000
38 37.457000
39 37.608000
40 37.689000


Weather: Clear, 70 °F, North 0 mph

Another UPDATE:
The setup I uploaded yesterday seems to be a little bit too tight, now the balance is between the first and the second one.

And here's the export of a 30 lap stint, no draft at all.

LAP TIME
01 40.901 (start lap)
02 37.141
03 37.038
04 37.042
05 37.015
06 37.026
07 37.062
08 36.978
09 37.026
10 37.074
11 37.045
12 37.084
13 37.012
14 37.080
15 37.095
16 37.186
17 37.127
18 37.116
19 37.128
20 37.225
21 37.132
22 37.157
23 37.245
24 37.372
25 37.276
26 37.289
27 37.214
28 37.229
29 37.326
30 37.342

Okay. I took your new setup and did a 30 lap stint with it like you. Very very nice. I would say it is between the 2 previous ones. I also did for curiosity, I took your first 1 and also did a 30 lap stint with it.


Date: 12/22/03

Session:

LAP TIME
1 37.162000
2 37.138000
3 36.966000
4 36.995000
5 37.010000
6 37.266000
7 37.199000
8 37.194000
9 37.259000
10 37.212000
11 37.241000
12 37.192000
13 37.267000
14 37.315000
15 37.216000
16 37.415000
17 37.242000
18 37.259000
19 37.297000
20 37.228000
21 37.339000
22 37.319000
23 37.346000
24 37.353000
25 37.361000
26 37.400000
27 37.438000
28 37.513000
29 37.643000
30 37.637000


Here is a 30 lap stint with the loose.

Date: 12/22/03

Session:

LAP TIME
1 37.178000
2 37.106000
3 37.125000
4 37.083000
5 37.185000
6 37.049000
7 37.096000
8 37.150000
9 37.057000
10 37.085000
11 37.269000
12 37.295000
13 37.213000
14 37.156000
15 37.163000
16 37.153000
17 37.267000
18 37.353000
19 37.302000
20 37.387000
21 37.391000
22 37.517000
23 37.357000
24 37.336000
25 37.428000
26 37.418000
27 37.486000
28 37.529000
29 37.491000
30 37.475000


Even though for me that is. I like the way the new setup feels. I mean it feels awesome for the first 20 laps. The car still got tight on me. The new setup could very well be better maybe I just ran too hard for the first 10. I need to find an online race to fairly rate these. I do agree the first setup is loose. For me personally I just love how the setup get me through turns 3 and 4. I also have to keep on top of the car with the loose one. If I day dream during the first 10 laps my race is over. I also noticed with the loose setup I did not have an issue with tire temps and For me I got better tire wear. Either way. I am really starting to enjoy your setups. I even tried your Lowes one. I beat my pb by .04 sec.

Volker If I may ask a question. Do you do setup packages? What I mean is besides the 70F. Do you do 60F 80F and cloudy ones?

Thanks again for sharing with all of us.

PS. You know what? I was just looking at the times together and If I take the last 2 laps out the new one is faster than the first one. So My conclusion is? I will just shut up.

No, I usually don't save my setups for other conditions than 70°F clear. For some tracks I have a setup for cloudy conditions, but not for Michigan.

Your description about the two different versions of my setup is exactly what I also think about them. For an offline testing session without any cars around, the setup with front bias @ 1745 lbs might be better, but it gets too unstable with backdraft which makes it too dangerous to use it in a race.
Well, it might even be possible to use it for sprint races such as those 20-lappers at Papy, but I would not recommend using it for league races where you begin more slowly.

I could not help myself. I just did an 101% Al race 40 laps with your first setup. The loose one. I did not qualify. I started at the back 15 car race. Car seems real good to me. I kinda enjoyed it. I think you can't go wrong with either the first or the new one.

One more thing. Volker could you post your car here for replay purposes?

Looks like you're right...
I also did some more testing with the loose setup today and only got into trouble when I touched the apron. Well, and as I actually don't plan to do this in a race, I can use my first setup.

(I updated it in the first posting.)

The main reason I tightened the setup for was that I got loose with it on a Papy server. I could catch the car without bringing anyone else into trouble, but these car control problems should not occur. I still don't know what it was caused by, well, I probably touched the apron in traffic and didn't recognize it.

UPDATE
I finally went back to the medium version (front bias @ 1750 lbs). The more loosy version is great if you either run completely alone, if you're behind another car in draft or if you're in the middle of a group of cars which means that you have both draft and backdraft. But it gets too loose if you're leading a group and the guy behind you races nose to tail, then the aero-loose effect is too strong.

UPDATE
I use some rear spring split now and moved weight to the front, both for qualifying and race trim. The result was a 198 mph qualifying lap.

Hey Volker..It's Intimidator_WAM here! About time you move that weight forward. Hehe!!

Nice racing against you yesterday. I look forward to running with you again!!

Intimidator

LOL I'm still at 49% in race trim.

Haha...yeah, but I still got you in Qual by almost a tenth with a weight bias of 1810(50.2%).

On to Cali.......

Intimidator