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All the updates are included in the setups I upload in the first posting of each thread. The file name tells you when the latest update was done:

VH2 Atlanta Y03 M10 D25.zip

year = 03
month = 10
day = 25
   
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I noticed all of your setups (but maybe the SS setup, didn't check that out) have minimum track bar and the weight fairly far back. Did you have any specific goal while doing these changes, like moving load to the LR?
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It makes me faster...that's the goal.
how does minimum track bar increase the speed? just wondering

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10-22-2004, 10:58 AM

Well, there are mainly 3 ways to loosen a car...
- raise track bar
- increase rear spring split
- move weight back

At most tracks, moving weight back works best for me, dunno why.
   
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UPDATE
Qual trim only...I found no way to improve my race setup which is nearly a year old...
   
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Qual trim only...I found no way to improve my race setup which is nearly a year old...
weils einfach perfekt ist
   
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Voker I like to say a very big thanks for your setups. I m glad somebody takes the time to let others enjoy the game too. again i like to say thanks... blkthorn
   
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10-28-2004, 12:05 AM

Is it normal for LR tire temps to go red in the first 10-15 laps? BTW I am saving tires pretty good, I never hit any 28's mostly 29.0-1
   
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Corner Speeds? - 10-28-2004, 01:14 AM

What is your corner speeds? I know they will drop as the run goes but I was just wondering what yours were or anybodys for that matter. Thanks
   
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10-28-2004, 02:44 AM

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Is it normal for LR tire temps to go red in the first 10-15 laps?
Yes...well, at least it is not unusual.
   
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I found no way to improve my race setup which is nearly a year old...
*note - my opinions for the changes I made were all on AtlantaBR at 70 degrees, clear

Maybe I can actually provide some useful input to these forums instead of just reading. maybe not, but I'll try I'll first say thanks for providing great setups to start working with in making our own adjustments.

I realized that I had no decent setup for Atlanta (BR specifically) this week.. so I looked at the one you had and messed with it a bit. I spent just 1 night adjusting things to how I like it and gave it to my roommate so we could try it out with AI over the LAN. I don't remember all of my changes.. I am not on my PC.. but I would at least offer up what changes I made that helped pick up speed without sacrificing too much tire wear.

For starters I brought the track bar up into the 10.xx range and it made the car so much more free. I added 1 notch to the rear sway bar I believe as well. I adjusted the wedge around 20 lbs looser and I honestly can not remember where I settled on my tire pressures but it was not far off from yours. The car ran too quick for 4th gear the way it was, so a tick taller and it was fine.

Running this way makes the car dangerous in the hands of someone in the first couple of laps if they can't handle starting loose for 1-2 laps (just don't jerk the wheel left when entering the corner on cold tires). Once the car comes in, you can ride the high or low lines about equally fast. I haven't been able to do that on BR with any other setup.. it always felt like one lane or the other was good for me, but not both. In a draft of 3 cars we cracked 27s in race trim with ease after having 15+ laps on our tires and it felt like we were taking it easy in the corners. Once we did that.. we pretty much quit for the night.

I honestly think this track is all about personal preference and how you drive the car into and through the turns. From the changes I made.. myself, my roommate, and a friend of ours have worked with it and we all have our own tweaks to it now. I don't have any issues with tire wear but our buddy was pushing it into the turns differently and it was destroying his. I just think if you free up the original (non-cloudy) a bit to how you like it, it will run just fine anywhere on the track - great setup to work with
   
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10-28-2004, 11:24 AM

Well, it's AtlantaBR...which has way too much grip.

If you raise the TB to 10 or anything near that at the original track, you'll leave the turns backwards...imo, any kind of adjustment that loosens my setup will make it hardly controllable 30/40 laps into it...

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10-28-2004, 07:40 PM

It's very tempting to loosen this setup up, however, I loosened Kansas setup up and ended up paying the price during the race. (self spin.... ) I saved the rf so dang well, the car became very loose late in the run. This time I'll leave the setup alone, and adjust the driver so he stops driving so hard on new tires. It's been the hardest part of learning VH's setups......driving slower than the car can really go to save tires for later in the run. Sadly, adjusting the driver is proving very difficult....he a stubborn moron!!!


I do have a question VH: Several times there have been cautions late in the race, and I was just wondering what advice you may have for how to compensate for low fuel and fresh rubber. I'm always afraid to over-adjust in the pits and end up with a car I can't drive. Are there any guidelines you use, or is it just experience that decides what adjustments to make. I'm not looking for specifics as every situation will be different, I just want to know if you have any 'rules-of-thumb' you use on race day. Thx for all you do here.
   
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10-28-2004, 08:38 PM

If you feel like simply having to loosen the car, there are no guidelines...just guess what you can drive and give it a try.



As far as fuel load is concerned, there's a very simple rule of thumb:
Add 1 click of right side track bar (you can't adjust the left side in the pits) for each missing gallon.
Iirc, that works on any track except Marty, the RCs and SS.

Examples:

1. You stop for tires only with 14 gallons left in the tank. 22-14 = 8 gallons => add 8 clicks = 2.00 inches of track bar

2. You stop for tires and half a can (=6 gallons) of fuel with only 3 gallons left.
22-9 = 13 gallons => add 13 clicks = 3.25 inches of track bar
   
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10-28-2004, 10:38 PM

You often talk about changing the gear ratio depending on the weather. I have not done that yet, and I haven't noticed any difference. In an attempt to learn something new, could you explain the reason to do this and the intended goal of the adjustment, in both warmer and cooler weather?

FYI....I am completely ignorant when it comes to gearing and what I would want to gain by making adjustments.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge Volker, I don't think you realize how much all of us truly appreciate your generousity. It's really nice of you, and makes this community of people really cool.

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10-28-2004, 11:53 PM

Cold / cloudy weather increases your engine's power which results in higher speeds, but the rev limit is still 9200. On most tracks, you have to lower the gearing in order to avoid hitting the rev limiter even before the end of the straights. Furthermore, you can usually use more tape by reducing revs a little.

Hotter temperatures mean less power => less top speed => less revs. You won't hit the rev limiter with thise conditions, but you won't reach your engine's peak power (which is at 8500+ RPM) either...
   
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10-29-2004, 01:17 AM

I am lost at Atlanta. I usually take your sets and run for the win the whole way. Not here, I can’t get a feel for it. I am pushing it too hard for five laps then lose it or I feel as if I am a snailing coming through 3 and 4. That’s where I have trouble, any ideas?



Michael Delaney: Lotta people go through life doing things badly. Racing's important to men who do it well. When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.
   
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10-29-2004, 11:16 AM

pastor, theres a 5lap replay of volker somewhere in the thread, drive like this and you are happy also, train A LOT of complete stints (works on every track).

volker:
both (clear&cloudy) race setups really are perfect, as frank already said, congrats!

question:
how the heck does one get rid of wallhitting? do you pay a lot of attention to that? (your 5lap replay shows you leave a lot of room to the walls).
sometimes during a race the concetration seems to go away, and BOOM wall is hit, does it happen to you too?