so all of you have come here to justify the matter in which sr1 was annoying and laggy....are you sure nothing happened out of spite to poor sr1?i find all 3 of you annoying but i dont think i would ban you,or boot you,or wreck you

but what i was really mad about was not getting reminded to pit and the host just sat there and let me get DQ'd. if someone's going to BF someone, they should atleast remind me when its time to pit.

do you not listen to you spotter ? whenever you get a blackflag they will say something to the effect we'll stop getting scored if you don't come in

it isn't the hosts job to tell you when you got to pit if you have a blackflag,that is your own responsibility

your stupidity (not paying attention) doesn't justify at all what you did

there was only one incident where i braked a little too hard and i bumped the car in front. but it wasnt too hard.

any incident where damage is incurred is a bad one

you didn't even simply utter the word sorry when you put me and ping in the wall

accidents happen, but i couldnt appologize for it.

not man enough to say sorry and own up for your mistakes ?

i didnt want to have to stretch and reach over my wheel to press the sorry button. that always screws me up. and my concentration.

so now your lazy ?

i did not appreciate being called wreckless when i did absolutly nothing "wreckless". incidents happen and this was a race.

well when you were being reckless you deserved to be told such

i was there to race and not just play follow the leader.

i'm not either,but i'm not gonna drive like a idiot and put people in walls to move up a position,portland isn't exactly a multiple groove race track.

and you say we're lying ?

don't make me go thru the portland replay and expose you for the lying person you are

blink im in the process of gatherin up evidence to show what he is saying about us
is false

and ya gotta remember,he started this,are we supposed to simply sit there and take it,or defend ourselves against his petty onslaughts

tyler, you dont have much of an argument there. im telling you, i dont talk and drive. i cant afford to reach down and look at the keyboard and take my hand off the wheel when im going 100 miles an hour. (or K/mph for some of you here ) it has nothing to do with being lazy. i just cant look down and drive at the same time. i would of caused a bigger mess just to take my hand off the wheel and look down. (yes, even on the straight) ive never heard of someone whine and demand an appology for something that happened so long ago. i would have meen more than willing to appologize and discuss it after the race like a man if you didnt go off and call me a "C" sucker and a (rhymes with brick).

i was not wreckless and you have not proved anything to show i was wreckless. all you said in that post was your (biased) opinion on my driving. which by the way was very fast and caused little incident. i would like it if you posted the whole replay here because i feel as if i have nothing to hide. i am proud of my actions with the exception of that one bump. its a racing deal and you really need to get over it. take a chill pill.

yes, i may have started this, but you choose to continue it. i would really like it if a mod locked this thread because i see no need for it to continue.


KTHXBYE

Jeff, you come here and lie about us and then you get upset at us for calling you the lair you are. You sit here and act like a victim every chance you get. You act like you are smarter then all of us but you show your foolishness every step of the way. Sinking to lows like bragging about how much faster you hooked up your wheel then some one else, bragging that you never run with driving aids even though you make plenty of mistakes with them off or on, and stealing my name on our forms are just a few things that show what your real character is. And what do you have to say about me that is negative? That I hit you after a race once? You complain that we are talking about this over a month later but you were the one who attack us on this form. If you expect us to just let you attack us with your lies(there were plenty in that first post so don't bother arguing with that) then you are wrong. You can point fingers at us like the little girl you are and we will always have the upper hand because we know what we are talking about and you do not. I have been in sim racing on and off for seven years. I'm the NASS99 BGN B Champion among other things. Of course I am offended by you when you get this game and then act like you are better then me and other drivers that have far more experince then you do. Your ego is to large for any track or any message board. You feel your logic is always right but it isn't. You feel that a stupid cartoon of Jamie McMurray playing with a 20 year old apple computer is funny even though it makes no since and you could never explain what it does mean anyway. You feel that all of your actions on the track are justifyed every time. We all make mistakes and when I make a mistake I own up to it. You don't. To think that your view of this situation is "the UN-biased one" shows that you don't even understand what un-biased means. But is also proves that you think your **** don't stink. ANd if we are so discraseful as you say, then where are the other people that are on these forms that see things the way you see them. I don't know anyone on these forms besides the NJ guys. You act like everyone on NJ backs me up because I am the almighty sfast. The fact that no one has come to your aid here shows that this is not the case. If people want to call me "the almighty sfast" then I am fine with it. But they don't. They simply respect me because I say what I want and I fight with little jerkasses like you when you open your foolish mouth. They also respect me because many of them did not play NR2003 before they met me. But the main reason that people agree with me and not you is simply the fact that I don't sound like a dumb***. You have sounded like a dumb*** many times on the IGN forms in the last few years.. You have sounded like a jerk on NJ. You have done so many things that hurt your chances of being respected. I'm sorry to the whole NR2003 commuinty that you are now here because me and NJ are partly responable for your crap.

I have no idea what I am talking about anymore. So now I will just rip apart what you have said in you last post.

"i couldnt help but notice that i posted this here on Feb 4. it is now Feb 24. so you guys are a little slow."

Sorry, I guess we don't keep up on reading every form on the internet where you have bashed us with your horribly biased view and lies.


"then i made some joke about someone setting up their wheel."

We all know that wasn't a joke. You were just trying to make fun of someone and say that you are better at something. You have to point out that you are better every chance you get. Don't you? You clearly have social problems if you do not understand that.

"the person took offense to it and soon everyone was against me."

Maybe you need to learn how to tread lightly when you start in a new commuinty and not act like you know everything right away. Maybe you should also not post on boards that you shouldn't post on. That will get people to turn on you quickly when spill you ego all over our boards.

"anything they do will be wrong because they already have the bias and prejudice in their head."

You did plenty of things that were clearly wrong well after we knew you. If one of us at NJ spun out 5 times in one race, we would be in trouble too. Even me. And we would be in more trouble if we failed to listen to warnings given by the admin. I could dig up more but I won't bother.

"we had a martinsville race in which i used a new, untested, very loose setup. and i admit that that was stupidity and a big mistake."

That is really funny. Most racers are respectful enough to other drivers to practice before a race so they are not a problem to others. Hell, two days before that race we ran a practice race (which you ruined BTW) which you seemed to learn nothing from. You caused a few yellows and a three car wreck with your refuseal to turn on some aids.

"i was told to put assists on, but i didnt want to yet. thats not my style."

ANd you expect us to respect you at all? No one cares about "style." This is not a BMX vert ramp. It is a NASCAR track and speed, caution and constancy count. At Martys you had none of those. You failed to follow instruction from the admin. That will get you a black flag in any league. ANY LEAGUE!

"i braked too late and hit a car. the host bf'd me and i got mad that he didnt tell me when i had to pit on the 3rd lap. (i didnt know about the 3 laps rule)."

Wow, you you made a mistake in the race? No way!
Dummy.
If you would have bothered to read the manual that came with the game then you would know that. You would also know that if you watched NASCAR racing.

"i bitched about the BF, but what i was really mad about was not getting reminded to pit and the host just sat there and let me get DQ'd. if someone's going to BF someone, they should atleast remind me when its time to pit."

Oh, so it is all the admins fault? Yeah SR1. You have a lot to learn. No admin is expected to do that for you. It is your fault for not knowing that. You are on your own out there in a race. Do you want us to hold your hand? If you don't know the rules then you have opened your self up to getting DQed. So blame it on us if you want to and keep on playing the role of the poor little victim here.

"i started having fun doing burnouts in happy hour."

After the admin told us all to not go on the track because we were having a drivers meeting. Dumb***.

"ive always had good success with my connection"

Huh? lol That could not be farther from the truth.

"but there are times when it warps."

Can you say contradiction? Or maybe understandment?


"there was a point where i braked too late in the 2nd to last turn. i couldnt brake hard or turn hard or the car would spin. my only hope was to keep it straight, while braking very carefully and make it back onto the track and hopefully people will see me and watch out. and it was a success."

Maybe some day you will learn that cold tires do not work to well. People should not have to watch out for you when you are not even on the track. If you go off course you should carefully re-enter. You did not.

"there was only one incident where i braked a little too hard and i bumped the car in front. but it wasnt too hard. i dont think i spun hit around or anything."

So you were seven car lengths back and you tried to out brake tyler into turn one. You came in to hot and you hit him. He hit the wall and bounced back into you. You spun out and drove back onto the track carelessly as you hit yet another car. You could have avoided that contact by turning your wheel just a little but you again showed your carelessness. Want me to post that for you?

"didnt want to have to stretch and reach over my wheel to press the sorry button. that always screws me up. and my concentration. he knows that wasnt on purpose and we could of talked about it after the race."

So you failed to say sorry because it is hard? That is disrespectful. You speed is less important then respect on the track. You must respect other drivers if you want respect from them. I have no problem hitting keys when I am racing. I say sorry even when it wasn't my fault. I say sorry even when it is just me wrecking. Maybe you should learn how to hit keys before you do anymore league racing. Oh, and did you talk to him after the race? lol

"my internet disconnected then i got back in the race just as it was going green. another car was pitting again (bc he screwed up the first time) and my car appeared right in front of him."

yep, but you failed to mention that you sat there for a full two seconds doing nothing. I must ask what you were doing at the time. What took so long? I mean, you are willing to steal my name on our message board. Are you willing to wait for two seconds to cause a wreck on pit road?

"if i looked back, i would of figured he was pitting behind me and left anyway. (i was around the 2nd to last pit stall i think)."

If you looked back? As if it is an option or a suggestion of want all of us should do. You had the third pit stall. That should not be hard to guess because you qaulifyed 3rd. And who cares how you would have figured anything.

"the game just put us both in a bad situation the way it put me infront of him like that."

Yeah, again with the victim. Blame the game this time. Your connection and nothing else put you in that situation.

"but i hardly moved an inch. and he came way too close if you ask me."

You put it in first gear and hit the gas when I was right there. You could have looked in your review and saw me coming but you failed to do that. Instead you caused a wreck that changed the whole race because of your carelessness.

"i never pull in like that. i always pull in a lot wider and am atleast a car with away from the car im pulling in front of.

I would like to see you pull into a pit like that during a race. Go ahead and pull into your pit stall from the middle of pit lane. Like you even have enough experience with pitting to even know what you do at this point. Hell, most of the time when you pit you are lagging out anyway.


"from my replay, it looks like he might have clipped me a little even if i didnt move. but im not going to worry about it."

Yeah, everyone gets close when pitting. Get over it. Of course right here you admit that it was your fault. Even if you didn't move? That sounds like if you didn't move there would have been little if not zero contact. But what did you care. You wanted to get out there and race for 6th one lap down. And why would you worry about it. That wreck cost you nothing. You still finished as best you could have with or without that wreck. I finished two spots lower then I could have and lost 15 points. So you don't need to worry about your careless driving as it does not affect you and you don't care about the drivers it does affect. Or even bother your self with hitting the "9" key and "enter." Lets not let you be bothered with that. Just because we all do it doesn't mean you have to because you are special.

"that happens even in real life to real professionals like jimmie johnson and jeff gordon."

Yeah, but in real life drivers do there best to look. And in real life they can't see much out of their mirror. But you can. And in real life drivers are smart enough to have an understanding of where their pit stall is and who is pitting near them. You don't even bother. Lucky for us it is easier for sim racers to understand that because the pit stall order is the same as the qualifying order. But you wouldn't understand that because you had no idea what you are doing. So don't bother.


"but whatever happened, i was not happy with the revenge that was taken against me. i didnt like almost getting wrecked UNDER CAUTION before the finish and once after the race. its just the principle. the rules were clearly stated that retaliations will not be tolerated. but nothing happened to him. heck, i was the only one who even noticed. i dont know how 5 other cars dont notice a car speeding across the track into the wall."

Did I hurt your feelings?

If you can't drive with respect for others then why would you expect me to respect you? Did I ruin your race? No. So STFU you whiney *** bitch. The principle? What about the principle of respecting other drivers to start with? You expect me to respect you while you fail to respect the admin and other drivers. If I hurt your finishing possition then I am sorry. But I did not. I was just pissed at you and your crap. You were lucky to even be in that race at all because of how you raced in other races but all you did was **** up you self and many others.

"i did not appreciate being called wreckless when i did absolutly nothing "wreckless"."

Reality sucks don't it? You were wreckless and you your self have proved it here in this form.

"i was passing cars all race and i made it all the way up to 2nd (well, i would of if the host gave me a lap back that i lost undercaution when i was disconnected."

You were never in second. lol Go ahead and prove it. There was no yellow after you disconnected for the admin to give you your lap back during. If you don't understand the rules, then don't bitch about the admin following them.

"if i had that lap back, i would have won the race because the leader cheated to win and har it taken away. which just goes to show you the type of people i was racing aginst"

If you had that lap back you would have to beat me. Oh, wait, you pretty much took care of that on pit road. And if you didn't take me out on pit road I would have likely won that race. And the leader did cheat to win. He could have not cheated and still won. But he did cheat. And you know what happened? We called him a cheater and he said "yep, I am a cheater." He said he was sorry for it and did not bitch about it at all. In other words, he was a man about it. Something you could never even try to be. And he doesn't sit here and say "if I didn't cheat I could have won."(even though that is true) He just said that what he did was foolish and that he was sorry for it. He said he would not do it once the season started. He didn't even care about being put at the end of the lead lap. I respect that a lot. I don't respect someone who doesn't understand the rules and sits back bitching about getting there lap back when they can't get their lap back. because it is against the rules

"yeah, i do think i was better than them...atleast in THIS race anyway."

That is funny that you think you were better then everyone else in this race but yet you finished 6th, started 3rd, you were no where near the lead at the first yellow, you never led a lap, you did not run the fastest lap in the race and you were not fastest in practice. If you were the best then why did you not win? Hell, the guy that won would say that he wasn't the best. But of course he was the guy that didn't mess up like me, Dave, Tyler, PING, Corran, James and you did. So go ahead and think your the best as if your ego would allow you not to.

"and when i reply to defend myself, i get banned. (even though i already told them that i wasnt racing with them anymore) that made no sence. they called me words like...things i cant say here. and i just defend myself and i get thrown out for arguing. and i have some kind of "attitude problem". maybe they were right. maybe i should of just sat there and let them flame away about how i shouldnt be allowed to race. i should of just listened to their lies and not even question them. because they are always going to be right."

Maybe you should have tried to kindly say sorry to the people you wrecked to start with. Nope, you just came in there whining about how I wrecked you four times during the race. Yeah! Four times! During the race! You say you were defending your self but as soon as you typed a word out you were on offense, not defence. How can you defend your self when you were pointing fingers before anyone pointed fingers at you? Why would you say sorry when you have a chance to be a victim and try to say something negative about me? Just act like it is the most horrible thing ever when I tried to wreck you. Nearly all of us have wrecked someone because we are pissed at one time or another. Most people would laugh at the fact that I wrecked you after the finish. Hell, after I won the North Wilkes race I was wrecked by half the people on the track. It was all in fun and I even made a avatar out of it. Even more people would laugh about how I wrecked you and it didn't affect your finish at all but you still complain about it like some kind of raped prison bitch.

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i would have meen more than willing to appologize and discuss it after the race like a man if you didnt go off and call me a "C" sucker and a (rhymes with brick).

i said no such thing to you,i didn't even start talking until after almost everyone left.

and call me a "C" sucker and a (rhymes with brick).


LOL. He was just digging at that point. He could have at least made that make since.

Uhh this thread is 3 years old and everyone had already taken a giant bowl of STFU in the meantime.

Lol, did'nt realixe till i saw VH's comment this thread was so old! Guess everyones moved on, all you need to do if you don't like the ppl. you race with.
Towler, you made me LMAO with this pic, lol!